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We're still thinking about our Product Showcase 🙌 We recently shared an inside look at what’s next for small businesses—focused on how AI can help drive real results and save time in day-to-day marketing and operations, including: ✅ 250% more impressions ✅ 50% more calls ✅ 39% more revenue ✅ 10+ hours saved per week If you missed it, you can still watch the full event on-demand here: 🔗 [https://www.thryv.com/webinars-and-events/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=organicsocial&utm\_campaign=productshowcaseondemand](https://www.thryv.com/webinars-and-events/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=organicsocial&utm_campaign=productshowcaseondemand)

# Top Holdings by value as of 2026-03-31: 1. PERPETUA RESOURCES CORP - $909.6M (29%) 2. MADRIGAL PHARMACEUTICALS INC - $728.8M (23%) 3. ACADIAN ASSET MANAGEMENT INC - $421.4M (14%) 4. BAUSCH HEALTH COS INC - $395.6M (13%) 5. NOVAGOLD RESOURCES INC - $244.6M (8%) # When compared to holdings as of 2025-12-31: New Positions: * AMICUS THERAPEUTIC Closed Positions: * SOLSTICE ADVANCED MATLS INC Increase Position by 25% or more: * INTERNATIONAL TOWER HILL MIN * THRYV HLDGS INC No Reduce Position by 25% or more *Paulson & Co. Inc. is headquartered in Jersey City, NJ.* [Source](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001035674/000101359426000611/xslForm13F_X02/form13fInfoTable.xml)

Our upcoming webinar with Search Engine Journal (SEJ), supported by Thryv, is less than a week away. If you’re trying to improve how your business shows up in AI search, Google results, reviews, social platforms, and voice search, this session will cover practical steps you can start using right away. 📅 May 20 at 2 PM ET Thryv experts Kelli Henthorn and Kevin White will be joined by Loren Baker, Founder of Search Engine Journal, to discuss: * How AI-powered search is changing local discovery * Ways to improve your Google Business Profile visibility * The role reviews and social media play in search visibility * Simple ways to audit your online presence You can register here if you'd like to join: [https://www.searchenginejournal.com/webinar-lp-how-to-optimize-your-small-business-for-ai-powered-search/?utm\_source=sponsor&utm\_medium=promo&utm\_campaign=webinar-thryv-052026&utm\_content=seo](https://www.searchenginejournal.com/webinar-lp-how-to-optimize-your-small-business-for-ai-powered-search/?utm_source=sponsor&utm_medium=promo&utm_campaign=webinar-thryv-052026&utm_content=seo)

I feel like I’ve been in an abusive relationship with my crm for more than a decade. We use infusionsoft/keap/thryv and it was a workhorse back in the day but hasn’t kept up with modern standards. Yet, I find myself continuing to use it because I’m so used to everything it can do (even for all it can’t) that every time I try a new crm I’m immediately annoyed that it doesn’t work the same so I go back to old reliable. At this point there’s a switching moat for me and it has to basically do magic for me to go through the pain to switch.

My Top 5 New Picks (Starting Monday, May 6) \#1: PSUS - Pershing Square USA ($1,500)\*\* \- \*\*The Legend:\*\* Bill Ackman \- \*\*The Buy:\*\* $241M on April 30 (filed next day!) \- The Thesis:Trading 10-15% below NAV, Ackman will force tender offer \- Risk: LOW | Target:+12-18% | Timeline:3-6 months \#2: OSCR - Oscar Health ($1,000)\*\* \- The Legend:Mark Bertolini (ex-Aetna CEO) \- \*\*The Buy:\*\* $11.9M on April 6 \- The Catalyst:Q1 earnings May 8 (4 days!) \- Risk:MEDIUM | Target: +26-34% | Timeline:30-60 days \#3: KLRA - Kailera Therapeutics ($1,000) \- \*\*The Legend:\*\* Bain Capital (PE giant) \- \*\*The Buy:\*\* $159.4M on April 20 (filed same day!) \- The Catalyst: Phase 2b data in June \- Risk:MEDIUM-HIGH | Target:+37-56% | Timeline:60-90 days \#4: THRY - Thryv Holdings ($1,000) \- \*\*The Legend:\*\* John Paulson (2008 Big Short guy) \- \*\*The Buy:\*\* $6.1M, now owns 10% of company \- The Thesis:Deep-value turnaround, 0.6x sales \- Risk:MEDIUM | Target:+40-60% | Timeline:6-12 months \#5: NKE - Nike ($500)\*\* \- \*\*The Legend:\*\* Tim Cook (Apple CEO) + Nike CEO + Director \- \*\*The Buy:\*\* $2.56M combined (RARE insider buying) \- The Thesis:Blue-chip bottom, new CEO turnaround \- Risk:LOW | Target:+15-26% | Timeline:6-12 months

DISCLAIMER: THiS IS NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE. After analyzing 100+ insider filings, here are the 5 BEST opportunities based on lessons learned: 1: PSUS (Pershing Square USA) - THE MEGADEAL\*\* The Signal: \- Bill Ackman (CEO)\*\* bought \*\*$240.9 MILLION\*\* on April 30, 2026 \- Filed \*\*NEXT DAY\*\* (0-day delay = ultra-fresh) \- 4 other Pershing executives bought totaling $55M same day \-Total coordinated buy: $296M \*\*Entry Price:\*\* $49.18 \*\*Current Price:\*\* \~$50.00 (estimated) \*\*Filing Date:\*\* May 1, 2026 Why This Is HUGE: \- Bill Ackman is arguably the best activist investor of our generation \- This is HIS OWN closed-end fund - he's buying his own vehicle \- Discount to NAV:\*\* Fund trading at 10-15% discount to net asset value \- Activist catalyst:\*\* Ackman will push for tender offer or liquidation \- Zero patience needed:This is a mathematical arbitrage The Thesis: When a fund trades below its NAV (net asset value), the manager can force a tender offer to buy shares back at NAV. Ackman buying $241M of his own fund = he's about to force this catalyst. \*\*Risk Level:\*\* LOW \*\*Target:\*\* $55-58 (+12-18%) \*\*Timeframe:\*\* 3-6 months \*\*Confidence:\*\* ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5/5) \#2: OSCR (Oscar Health) - CEO CONVICTION BUY The Signal: \- Mark Bertolini (CEO)bought $11.9M on April 6 \- Filed NEXT DAY (1-day delay) \- Former Aetna CEO, knows healthcare inside-out \- Purchased 1 MILLION shares in single transaction \*\*Entry Price:\*\* $11.92 \*\*Current Price:\*\* \~$12.50 (estimated) \*\*Market Cap:\*\* $2.8B Why This Works: \- Oscar is tech-enabled health insurance (high-margin business) \- Medicare Advantage enrollment +45% YoY \- Company just turned profitable in Q4 2025 \- CEO buying $12M = extreme conviction The Catalyst: \- Q1 2026 earnings on May 8 (4 days away!) \- Consensus expects first profitable year \- If they beat, stock could gap to $15-16 \*\*Risk Level:\*\* MEDIUM \*\*Target:\*\* $15-16 (+26-34%) \*\*Timeframe:\*\* 30-60 days \*\*Confidence:\*\* ⭐⭐⭐⭐ (4/5) \--- \#3: KLRA (Kailera Therapeutics) - BAIN CAPITAL BLITZ The Signal \- Bain Capital (3 separate entities) bought $159.4M on April 20 \- ALL FILED SAME DAY (0-day delay) \- Largest biotech insider buy of 2026 \- Added 9.96M shares at $16.00 \*\*Entry Price:\*\* $16.00 \*\*Current Price:\*\* \~$17.20 (estimated) \*\*Market Cap:\*\* $1.1B Why This Is Different: \- Bain Capital is PE royalty - they don't throw $160M around \- This is a pre-IPO PIPE investment filing publicly \- Company developing treatments for chronic kidney disease \- Phase 2b data expected June 2026 The Setup: this has: 1. Institutional backing:\*\*Bain doesn't gamble 2. Near-term catalyst:\*\* Phase 2b data in 6 weeks 3. Entry at offering price:\*\* No premium paid \*\*Risk Level:\*\* MEDIUM-HIGH (biotech) \*\*Target:\*\* $22-25 (+37-56%) \*\*Timeframe:\*\* 60-90 days \*\*Confidence:\*\* ⭐⭐⭐⭐ (4/5) \--- \#4: THRY (Thryv Holdings) - PAULSON'S TURNAROUND BET The Signal: \- John Paulson (hedge fund legend) bought $6.1M on Feb 27 \- Now owns 8.4M shares (10% owner) \- Filed 4 days after trade \*\*Entry Price:\*\* $2.50 \*\*Current Price:\*\* \~$2.60 (estimated) \*\*Market Cap:\*\* $560M \*\*Who Is John Paulson?\*\* \- Made $4 BILLION shorting subprime in 2008 \- One of the greatest macro traders ever \- Doesn't do small-cap unless conviction is extreme \*\*The Story:\*\* \- Thryv is marketing software for SMBs (think Yelp for local businesses) \- Company was bankrupt in 2020, restructured \- Now profitable, growing 15% annually \- Trading at 0.6x sales (insanely cheap) \*\*Why Paulson Bought:\*\* \- Classic deep-value turnaround \- FCF positive \- Zero debt post-restructuring \- AI-powered marketing tools = growth catalyst \*\*Risk Level:\*\* MEDIUM \*\*Target:\*\* $3.50-4.00 (+40-60%) \*\*Timeframe:\*\* 6-12 months \*\*Confidence:\*\* ⭐⭐⭐⭐ (4/5) \--- \#5: NKE (Nike) - UNCOMMON INSIDER BUYING\*\* \*\*The Signal:\*\* \- \*\*Tim Cook\*\* (Apple CEO, Nike Board Director) bought \*\*$1.06M\*\* on April 10 \- \*\*Elliott Hill\*\* (Nike CEO) bought \*\*$1.00M\*\* on April 13 \- \*\*Robert Holmes Swan\*\* (Director) bought \*\*$500K\*\* on April 7 \*\*Total insider buying (3 executives):\*\* \*\*$2.56M\*\* \*\*Entry Range:\*\* $42.27 - $42.43 \*\*Current Price:\*\* \~$43.50 \*\*Market Cap:\*\* $66B \*\*Why This Is MASSIVE:\*\* \- Nike insiders NEVER buy \- Last insider purchase was 2019 (5+ years ago!) \- Stock down 45% from all-time highs \- Brand under pressure from On Running, Hoka \*\*The Thesis:\*\* When blue-chip companies with NO insider buying history suddenly see CEOs and directors buying = \*\*major bottom\*\* \*\*What's Changed:\*\* \- New CEO Elliott Hill (Nike veteran) took over in Oct 2025 \- Announced $1B cost cuts \- Refocusing on performance vs. lifestyle \- China sales stabilizing \*\*Risk Level:\*\* LOW (it's Nike, not a penny stock) \*\*Target:\*\* $50-55 (+15-26%) \*\*Timeframe:\*\* 6-12 months \*\*Confidence:\*\* ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (5/5) 📊 EXPECTED OUTCOMES (60-Day Horizon) Conservative Case: \- PSUS: +5% \- OSCR: +10% \- KLRA: +0% \- THRY: +15% \- NKE: +8% \- Total:(+7.3% return) Base Case: \- PSUS: +12% \- OSCR: +25% \- KLRA: +20% \- THRY: +40% \- NKE: +15% \- Total:(+22.1% return) Bull Case: \- PSUS: +18% \- OSCR: +35% \- KLRA: +50% \- THRY: +60% \- NKE: +25% \- Total:+36.9% return

Hey, It looks visually spectacular! But otherwise the current edit makes me want to avoid the game. But there's some simple changes to fix that: * **Cut the logo**. You have 4 seconds to capture attention. Don't spend 8 seconds on logo nobody knows. * **Add a hook for the** ***trailer***. Why should we *need* to watch after 4 seconds? Generally this is showing the coolest thing *ASAP*. * **Show the basic story**. Your trailer lacks the critical information: who are you, what is your goal, and what is at stake if you fail? * **Show don't tell**. You seem to be relying on text. Only use it if it's absolutely necessary. If you must use text limit it to [1-3 words](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91t0ha9x0AE). * **Advertise your** [**point of difference**](https://www.thryv.com.au/blog/5-ways-find-point-difference/). Why should people play your game vs others? Walking through spaces, opening doors and pulling switches are not compelling or unique gameplay. * **Show the core gameplay loop.** What is your goal, what obstacles get in your way, and what actions can you take to overcome them? It's not enough to just show monsters, how are they dealt with? * **Cut or redo the VO**. The tone and pace of the VO doesn't match the music or the visuals. * **Balance the sound**. The voice over is hard to hear over the music. * **Don't show text during a voice over.** It's hard to process both. * **Cut the text entirely**. The text doesn't provide anything compelling. Worse, it looks unprofessional: the sections are mistimed, the font and background don't match the game, and the capitalisation is inconsistent. * **Your trailer needs** [**a logical narrative**](https://www.reddit.com/r/IndieDev/comments/1sn39bj/comment/ogn1fql/). Currently it's jumping between random scenes. * **Cut repetitions**. Your trailer cuts back to areas and actions without adding anything new. It suggests the game lacks content. It's better to cut those and have a shorter trailer. * **Get it under 0:59 or 1:59**. People are more likely to watch if you get it under a threshold. You trailer could be cut down to 59 seconds with a proper edit. * **Add a hook for the** ***game***. Why should people *need* to play the game? An amazing boss to battle? Another terrifying (but only partially revealed) monster to see? An impossible mystery to solve? Incredible environments to explore? This should compose your * **Get a more thematic logo**. "APHASIA" in plain text is underwhelming. Otherwise the music and tensions builds really nicely.

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Hey everyone, I’ve been in here for a bit and figured I’d finally introduce myself. I’m Corey, I work as a business advisor for a large company called Thryv helping small to mid-sized businesses get more organized and actually grow (mostly around online presence, lead management, and not letting opportunities slip through the cracks). I talk to a lot of owners every week…contractors, service businesses, local shops, etc. and it seems like everyone’s dealing with some version of the same problems: • Not showing up consistently online • Leads coming in but no real system to track or follow up • Posting on social feels random or time-consuming • Website/Google presence isn’t really doing much Curious from you all, what’s been the biggest bottleneck for your business right now? Not here to pitch anything, just genuinely want to hear what people are running into and how you’re handling it.

A plumber in San Jose told me last month that he gets about 40 leads a week from Google, his website, and Yelp combined. Sounds great, right? Except he only follows up on maybe 15 of them. The rest sit in three different inboxes, two voicemail boxes, and a contact form he forgot he had. He's not lazy - he's under a sink six hours a day. By the time he calls back, half those people already hired someone else. This is the exact problem that ai automation for small business is supposed to solve. Not the flashy stuff - not AI writing your novel or generating art. The boring, money-on-the-table stuff. Like responding to a lead within five minutes instead of five hours. Thryv just dropped a tool built specifically for this. It's called AI Lead Flow, and it's worth a serious look if you're a service-based business drowning in scattered leads. What AI Automation for Small Business Looks Like in Practice Thryv is a company that's been selling CRM and business management software to small businesses for years. They're publicly traded, based in Dallas, and their core customers are exactly who you'd expect: HVAC companies, dental offices, locksmiths, pet groomers. The kind of businesses that live and die by inbound leads. AI Lead Flow, launched in early April 2026, does something specific: it pulls every lead from every channel - your website forms, Google Business messages, social media DMs, phone calls, emails - into one unified inbox. Then an AI agent triages them. It figures out who's a hot lead, who's just browsing, and who's spam. For the hot ones, it can send an instant reply, book an appointment, or route them to the right person. Pricing starts at $228/month on the Plus plan (which includes the CRM, scheduling, and payment processing). The AI Lead Flow features are bundled in at the Professional tier, which runs $382/month. --- Full article with images: https://blog.autom84you.com/post/ai-automation-for-small-business-thryv-lead-flow-2026

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We’re an early stage startup working on Thryv, focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. With a driven team across product, analytics, and tech, we’re building for the long run. We’re currently looking for: • Graphic Designers (strong skills in Photoshop & Illustrator required) • Video Editors (proficiency in Premiere Pro & After Effects) 💸 Compensation: • Post-funding: \~can be discussed(range10k-15k /month + ESOPs based on your work We’re actively raising funds and looking for passionate creators who want to grow with us from day one. If this excites you, DM me with your work/portfolio 📩

We’re an early stage startup working on Thryv, focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. With a driven team across product, analytics, and tech, we’re building for the long run. We’re currently looking for: • Graphic Designers (strong skills in Photoshop & Illustrator required) • Video Editors (proficiency in Premiere Pro & After Effects) 💸 Compensation: • Post-funding: \~can be discussed(range10k-15k /month + ESOPs based on your work We’re actively raising funds and looking for passionate creators who want to grow with us from day one. If this excites you, DM me with your work/portfolio 📩

We’re an early stage startup working on Thryv, focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. With a driven team across product, analytics, and tech, we’re building for the long run. We’re currently looking for: • Graphic Designers (strong skills in Photoshop & Illustrator required) • Video Editors (proficiency in Premiere Pro & After Effects) 💸 Compensation: • Post-funding: \~can be discussed(range10k-15k /month + ESOPs based on your work We’re actively raising funds and looking for passionate creators who want to grow with us from day one. If this excites you, DM me with your work/portfolio 📩

We’re an early stage startup working on Thryv, focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. With a driven team across product, analytics, and tech, we’re building for the long run. We’re currently looking for: • Graphic Designers (strong skills in Photoshop & Illustrator required) • Video Editors (proficiency in Premiere Pro & After Effects) 💸 Compensation: • Post-funding: \~can be discussed(range10k-15k /month + ESOPs based on your work We’re actively raising funds and looking for passionate creators who want to grow with us from day one. If this excites you, DM me with your work/portfolio 📩

We’re an early stage startup working on Thryv, focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. With a driven team across product, analytics, and tech, we’re building for the long run. We’re currently looking for: • Graphic Designers (strong skills in Photoshop & Illustrator required) • Video Editors (proficiency in Premiere Pro & After Effects) 💸 Compensation: • Post-funding: \~can be discussed(range10k-15k /month + ESOPs based on your work We’re actively raising funds and looking for passionate creators who want to grow with us from day one. If this excites you, DM me with your work/portfolio 📩

🚀 Hi there! Quick question—what if you could get **more leads without working extra hours**? We’re dropping our **latest AI tools and updates** at the **Product Showcase on April 22**, and you’re invited. Think: smarter workflows, automated follow-ups, and marketing that actually works—so you can focus on the parts of your business you love. Free, virtual, and exclusive for our community. Who’s in? 🙌 [Register here!](https://www.thryv.com/webinars-and-events/product-showcase-2026?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=organicsocial&utm_campaign=product_showcase_registrations_q2_2026)

We’re an early-stage startup working on Thryv focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. We’re a small, driven team with backgrounds in product, analytics, and tech, building with a long-term mindset. We’re looking for passionate builders to grow with us. 👨‍💻 Open Roles Flutter Developers (Flutter, Dart) Graphic Designers (Photoshop, Illustrator must) Video Editors (Premiere Pro, After Effects) UI/UX Designers (Figma / Adobe XD) 💰 Compensation \- Current: ₹0/month (pre-funding stage) \- Post-funding: approx ₹25,000/month + ESOPs We are actively in the process of raising funds. If you’re interested, DM me with your work/portfolio.

We’re an early-stage startup working on Thryv focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. We’re a small, driven team with backgrounds in product, analytics, and tech, building with a long-term mindset. We’re looking for passionate builders to grow with us. 👨‍💻 Open Roles Flutter Developers (Flutter, Dart) Graphic Designers (Photoshop, Illustrator must) Video Editors (Premiere Pro, After Effects) UI/UX Designers (Figma / Adobe XD) 💰 Compensation \- Current: ₹0/month (pre-funding stage) \- Post-funding: approx ₹25,000/month + ESOPs We are actively in the process of raising funds. If you’re interested, DM me with your work/portfolio.

We’re an early-stage startup working on Thryv focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. We’re a small, driven team with backgrounds in product, analytics, and tech, building with a long-term mindset. We’re looking for passionate builders to grow with us. 👨‍💻 Open Roles Flutter Developers (Flutter, Dart) Graphic Designers (Photoshop, Illustrator must) Video Editors (Premiere Pro, After Effects) UI/UX Designers (Figma / Adobe XD) 💰 Compensation \- Current: ₹0/month (pre-funding stage) \- Post-funding: approx ₹25,000/month + ESOPs We are actively in the process of raising funds. If you’re interested, DM me with your work/portfolio.

We’re an early-stage startup working on Thryv focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. We’re a small, driven team with backgrounds in product, analytics, and tech, building with a long-term mindset. We’re looking for passionate builders to grow with us. 👨‍💻 Open Roles Flutter Developers (Flutter, Dart) Graphic Designers (Photoshop, Illustrator must) Video Editors (Premiere Pro, After Effects) UI/UX Designers (Figma / Adobe XD) 💰 Compensation \- Current: ₹0/month (pre-funding stage) \- Post-funding: approx ₹25,000/month + ESOPs We are actively in the process of raising funds. If you’re interested, DM me with your work/portfolio.

We’re an early-stage startup working on Thryv focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. We’re a small, driven team with backgrounds in product, analytics, and tech, building with a long-term mindset. We’re looking for passionate builders to grow with us. 👨‍💻 Open Roles Flutter Developers (Flutter, Dart) Graphic Designers (Photoshop, Illustrator must) Video Editors (Premiere Pro, After Effects) UI/UX Designers (Figma / Adobe XD) 💰 Compensation \- Current: ₹0/month (pre-funding stage) \- Post-funding: approx ₹25,000/month + ESOPs We are actively in the process of raising funds. If you’re interested, DM me with your work/portfolio.

We’re an early-stage startup working on Thryv — focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. We’re a small, driven team with backgrounds in product, analytics, and tech, building with a long-term mindset. We’re looking for passionate builders to grow with us. 👨‍💻 Open Roles Flutter Developers (Flutter, Dart) Graphic Designers (Photoshop, Illustrator must) Video Editors (Premiere Pro, After Effects) UI/UX Designers (Figma / Adobe XD) 💰 Compensation \- Current: ₹0/month (pre-funding stage) \- Post-funding: approx ₹25,000/month + ESOPs We are actively in the process of raising funds. If you’re interested, DM me with your work/portfolio.

We’re an early-stage startup working on Thryv focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. We’re a small, driven team with backgrounds in product, analytics, and tech, building with a long-term mindset. We’re looking for passionate builders to grow with us. 👨‍💻 Open Roles Flutter Developers (Flutter, Dart) Graphic Designers (Photoshop, Illustrator must) Video Editors (Premiere Pro, After Effects) UI/UX Designers (Figma / Adobe XD) 💰 Compensation \- Current: ₹0/month (pre-funding stage) \- Post-funding: approx ₹25,000/month + ESOPs We are actively in the process of raising funds. If you’re interested, DM me with your work/portfolio.

We’re an early-stage startup working on Thryv focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. We’re a small, driven team with backgrounds in product, analytics, and tech, building with a long-term mindset. We’re looking for passionate builders to grow with us. 👨‍💻 Open Roles Flutter Developers (Flutter, Dart) Graphic Designers (Photoshop, Illustrator must) Video Editors (Premiere Pro, After Effects) UI/UX Designers (Figma / Adobe XD) 💰 Compensation \- Current: ₹0/month (pre-funding stage) \- Post-funding: approx ₹25,000/month + ESOPs We are actively in the process of raising funds. If you’re interested, DM me with your work/portfolio.

We’re an early-stage startup working on Thryv — focused on redefining lifestyle, consistency, and personal growth through tech. We’re a small, driven team with backgrounds in product, analytics, and tech, building with a long-term mindset. We’re looking for passionate builders to grow with us. 👨‍💻 Open Roles Flutter Developers (Flutter, Dart) Graphic Designers (Photoshop, Illustrator must) Video Editors (Premiere Pro, After Effects) UI/UX Designers (Figma / Adobe XD) 💰 Compensation \- Current: ₹0/month (pre-funding stage) \- Post-funding: approx ₹25,000/month + ESOPs We are actively in the process of raising funds. If you’re interested, DM me with your work/portfolio.

# A Case Study in Market Structure, Regulatory Failure, and the Doomsday Counter-Strategy # Abstract Over the past five years, a disturbing pattern has emerged across publicly traded Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) companies. Firms with growing revenues, strong gross margins, and loyal customer bases have seen their stock prices collapse by 70–95%, lost analyst coverage, and in several cases been delisted entirely — not because their businesses failed, but because their stocks were systematically destroyed. This paper argues that a coordinated short-selling strategy by market makers and sophisticated short sellers has weaponized the structural vulnerabilities of small- and mid-cap SaaS equities, harvesting billions of dollars from retail investors, company employees, and founders — most of whom never realized what happened to them. The paper further introduces a derivative counter-strategy — the "Doomsday Call" — developed by an independent investor to identify and exploit the moment when the market maker is trapped in a short squeeze, forcing price stabilization and exposing the manipulation. Finally, this paper calls for urgent regulatory reform to close the loopholes that make this playbook possible. # I. Introduction: The Price That Wasn't Real Imagine you are the founder of a software company. You took it public in 2021. Revenue is growing 30% year over year. Gross margins are above 70%. Your customers are renewing at over 100% annually — meaning they are spending more with you every year, not less. By every operational measure, the business is working. But your stock price has fallen 85% in three years. You don't panic. You assume the market is irrational, that rates rose and growth stocks sold off broadly. You look at your stock plan, see the price, and sell shares accordingly — raising money, paying taxes, compensating employees with equity grants priced at what you believe is a temporarily depressed but legitimate market price. What you don't know is that the price you are looking at is not a real price. It is a managed price — one that has been systematically suppressed by a coordinated short position so large, so persistent, and so strategically maintained that no natural buying pressure can overcome it. The stock will continue to fall until there is no coverage left, no institutional interest, no retail attention — and then it will either be acquired for pennies on the dollar or delisted entirely. At that point, the short sellers close their position and walk away. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a documented, repeatable playbook. And it has been run on Vimeo, Five9, Sprout Social, Eventbrite, Thryv, and dozens of other SaaS companies over the past five years. # II. Background: The SaaS Stock Structure and Why It Is Exploitable To understand how the manipulation works, one must first understand what makes SaaS stocks uniquely vulnerable. **The valuation gap.** SaaS companies are valued on future cash flows, not current earnings. In 2020–2021, low interest rates caused investors to discount those future cash flows at very low rates, producing extraordinary valuations — often 20–40x forward revenue. When interest rates rose sharply in 2022, those multiples compressed violently. A stock trading at 30x revenue in 2021 might justifiably trade at 6x revenue in 2023. This created a structural cover story: any SaaS stock that fell 80% could be explained as "multiple compression." This cover story is the manipulation's greatest asset. **The liquidity cliff.** Most SaaS companies outside the top tier — Salesforce, Workday, ServiceNow — have relatively low float, thin daily trading volumes, and limited institutional ownership. When a stock's price falls below a certain threshold, institutional investors with minimum market cap mandates are forced to sell. Index funds rebalance out. Analysts drop coverage because their firms cannot generate enough commission revenue to justify research. This creates a self-reinforcing death spiral that short sellers can trigger and then ride. **The information vacuum.** When analyst coverage drops to zero, there is no one left to tell the market that the business is actually performing well. The only price signal available is the stock price itself — which is being managed downward. Company insiders, who are restricted in what they can say and when, are left watching helplessly as the market concludes their company is dying. **The employee and founder trap.** Equity compensation is priced at market. When the market price is manipulated downward, employees and founders accept lower compensation, sell shares at artificially low prices, and pay taxes on valuations that do not reflect the company's true worth. The wealth transfer from company stakeholders to short sellers is invisible, systematic, and enormous. # III. The Playbook: How the Manipulation Works Based on five years of observation across multiple SaaS names, the pattern follows a consistent sequence of phases. **Phase 1 — Accumulation of Short Position.** Following the peak valuations of 2021, short sellers — often operating through market maker desks that have unique structural privileges — begin accumulating large short positions in selected SaaS names. They target companies with: thin float, limited institutional backing, high valuation multiples (providing cover for the eventual price decline), and management teams without prior public market experience. **Phase 2 — The Narrative Seeding.** Short sellers publish or encourage negative research. Analysts who rely on trading commissions from hedge fund clients receive subtle signals that coverage of certain names is not commercially valued. This is rarely explicit. It is the quiet withdrawal of attention — fewer upgrades, lower price targets, eventually no coverage at all. **Phase 3 — Liquidity Drainage.** As the stock falls, the mechanisms described above kick in automatically. Institutional sellers exit. Index funds rebalance. The daily trading volume thins. Bid-ask spreads widen. The stock becomes increasingly difficult to trade in size — which paradoxically serves the short seller, because it makes it equally difficult for any large buyer to accumulate a position without moving the market. **Phase 4 — The Holding Pattern.** Once the stock is in the low single digits, the short position is held. There is no urgency to cover. The company, now without analyst coverage or institutional sponsorship, is invisible to new capital. The short seller collects the borrow fee rebate and waits. If the company raises cash through a secondary offering to survive, the short seller participates in the dilution. If the company cannot raise cash, it faces a going-concern warning and eventual delisting. Either way, the short seller wins. **Phase 5 — Exit.** The short position is closed either upon delisting (at near-zero cost basis) or upon a distressed acquisition at a fraction of intrinsic value. The profits are booked. No regulatory action is taken because each individual step in the playbook is technically legal, or at minimum very difficult to prove as coordinated. # IV. Case Evidence: Five Companies, One Pattern # Vimeo (VMEO) Vimeo is the most complete illustration of the playbook. The stock peaked near $58 at its 2021 NASDAQ debut. By the time it was delisted in late 2025 following its acquisition by Bending Spoons for $7.85 per share, it had lost approximately 87% of its peak value. Yet the business at the time of acquisition was delivering 78% gross margins, $27 million in net earnings, and an all-time high $55 million adjusted EBITDA. Enterprise bookings had grown over 50% in 2024. The Q4 2024 earnings call lasted 20 minutes — because there was almost no one left to ask questions. The information vacuum was total. # Five9 (FIVN) Five9 peaked near $200 and today trades around $18 — a decline of over 90% — while generating over $1 billion in annual revenue growing at 14% year over year, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of nearly 20% and a dollar-based net retention rate of 108%. The consensus analyst price target is $37, more than double the current trading price. The disconnect between operational performance and market price has no rational fundamental explanation. # Sprout Social (SPT) Sprout Social declined 68% in a single year, falling from $36 to under $10, against a backdrop of continued revenue growth and an expanding customer base. Investors who bought five years ago have lost approximately 80% of their capital — in a company that is still operational and growing. # Eventbrite (EB) and Thryv (THRY) Both companies follow the same trajectory: strong or improving SaaS metrics, collapsing stock prices, thinning coverage, and management teams whose insider equity plans have priced compensation as if the suppressed stock price is the legitimate one. # V. The Harm: Who Pays? The most overlooked dimension of this phenomenon is who bears the cost. **Retail investors** who bought on the strength of genuine business metrics have lost billions in aggregate. Unlike the short sellers, they had no information asymmetry, no structural privilege, and no exit strategy. **Employees** at every level accepted equity grants and exercised options at prices that reflected the manipulated market, not the actual value of the business. A software engineer who joined Vimeo in 2022 and received stock options priced at $10 received far less real compensation than their offer letter implied. **Founders and executives** sold shares under Rule 10b5-1 plans — pre-scheduled trading plans designed to prevent insider trading — at prices they believed were market prices. In many cases they were effectively gifting value to the short sellers who had manufactured the suppression. **The companies themselves** were hampered. A suppressed stock price makes acquisitions harder, employee retention more difficult, and secondary capital raises dilutive. Some companies that could have survived with access to fairly-priced equity capital instead died in the liquidity desert the short sellers created. # VI. The Doomsday Call: One Investor's Counter-Strategy Against this backdrop, one independent investor — through five years of observation and pattern recognition — developed what he calls the Doomsday Call strategy. **The core insight** is this: market makers who hold large short positions must delta-hedge their exposure. When a market maker is short a large number of shares and a trader begins purchasing deep call options in size on the same name, the market maker is mathematically forced to buy the underlying stock to hedge the gamma exposure created by those calls. If the call position is large enough relative to the float and the short position, the market maker faces a choice: allow a short squeeze that will expose and potentially unwind the entire position, or absorb the gamma by keeping the stock price stable — effectively freezing the manipulation in place. **The name "Doomsday"** reflects the asymmetric pressure this creates. The short seller's playbook depends on continuous price decay. A frozen price — one that neither rises nor falls — is itself a kind of defeat. It prevents the short seller from covering at lower prices. It halts the death spiral. It buys time for fundamental value to reassert itself or for a strategic buyer to notice the discrepancy between price and value. **The Thryv observation** was a key proof of concept. When deep call options were purchased on THRY with specific strike prices and expiration dates timed to the market maker's known delta-hedging obligations, the stock price exhibited unusual stability inconsistent with both the general market environment and the stock's prior volatility pattern. The market maker's hedging activity functionally became a price floor. **The limitations are real.** This strategy requires significant capital, precise timing, and a deep understanding of options market mechanics. It is not replicable by the average retail investor. It is also legally sensitive: the line between identifying a gamma squeeze opportunity and intentionally moving a stock price is thin, and regulators have not clearly defined it in the context of a defensive counter-strategy against pre-existing manipulation. # VII. Regulatory Failure: Why This Keeps Happening The persistence of this pattern across five years and dozens of companies is not accidental. It reflects a series of structural regulatory failures. **Failure-to-deliver opacity.** The SEC publishes failure-to-deliver (FTD) data — instances where a short seller does not deliver shares they have sold — but does so with a two-week lag and without linking FTD data to specific institutional actors. Persistent FTDs are a primary indicator of naked short selling, which is illegal, but the opacity of the data makes enforcement nearly impossible. **Market maker exemptions.** Registered market makers are legally exempt from the uptick rule and certain short-selling restrictions that apply to other market participants. These exemptions exist to ensure liquidity provision. They have been systematically exploited to build directional short positions under the cover of "legitimate market making activity." **The coverage gap.** There is no regulatory requirement for analyst coverage of listed companies. When coverage drops to zero, there is no mechanism to alert investors that a company's stock price may no longer reflect its fundamental value. The SEC's disclosure regime assumes that price discovery works — an assumption that fails entirely when liquidity is artificially drained. **The 10b5-1 blind spot.** Pre-scheduled insider trading plans were designed to protect executives from insider trading accusations. They have inadvertently created a mechanism by which insiders systematically sell shares at manipulated prices without any awareness that manipulation is occurring. The regulation has never been updated to account for this vulnerability. # VIII. What Must Change This paper proposes four specific reforms. **1. Real-time FTD disclosure.** Failure-to-deliver data should be published daily, not bi-weekly, and should be linked to the broker-dealer responsible for the failure. This single change would make persistent naked short selling significantly more visible and more difficult to sustain. **2. Market maker position limits and audits.** Market makers should be required to demonstrate that their short positions in any given security are proportionate to their actual market-making activity. A market maker whose net short position in a small-cap SaaS stock exceeds its average daily market-making volume by a factor of ten is not providing liquidity — it is taking a directional bet under regulatory cover. **3. A coverage floor for listed companies.** NASDAQ and NYSE should require that listed companies with above a minimum market capitalization threshold maintain at least one independent research analyst. The exchanges could fund this through listing fees. The information vacuum that enables this playbook cannot be closed by the market alone. **4. 10b5-1 manipulation awareness provisions.** Insider trading plan regulations should require that executives receive an independent assessment of whether their company's stock price shows signs of systematic suppression before executing large plan-based sales. This is a modest procedural change with significant protective effect. # IX. Conclusion: The Price Is the Lie The stock market's foundational promise to retail investors is that price reflects value — that the collective wisdom of millions of participants, armed with public information, produces a fair valuation. This paper has argued that for a specific class of companies, in a specific set of circumstances, that promise is being systematically broken. The victims are not abstract. They are the software engineer who accepted a job offer partly because of the equity package. They are the founder who sold shares under a pre-scheduled plan to pay for a house, not knowing the price was a fiction. They are the retail investor who read the 10-K, saw the revenue growth and the gross margins and the retention rate, and bought shares on the reasonable assumption that the market would eventually agree with the fundamentals. The market did not agree. It was not allowed to. One investor, through five years of observation and a creative use of options market mechanics, found a way to make the manipulation visible and costly for its architects. The Doomsday Call is not a solution. It is a signal — evidence that the manipulation is real, detectable, and reversible. The solution must come from regulators. Until it does, the playbook will continue. The next Vimeo is already being quietly shorted into oblivion. Its employees do not know yet. Its founder does not know yet. The price they see is not the price that is real. *This paper is intended for educational and public policy purposes. Nothing herein constitutes investment advice. The author is not a registered financial advisor. All investment decisions carry risk.*

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I'm one of the co-founders of Thryv A competitive lifestyle platform we're building from the ground up. Think of it as a fantasy league, but for your actual life. What is Thryv? Thryv turns your everyday habits —workouts, steps, sleep, nutrition, hydration into a competitive game. You earn XP, climb weekly leagues (Bronze → Gold → Champion), and compete against real people in your city. The killer feature is a live GPS territory map where your runs and walks physically claim neighbourhoods on a shared city map. Other users can challenge your zones, and you have to defend them by being more active. Basically: Strava + Duolingo + Pokémon GO, but for your whole lifestyle. Where we are We're going pre-product, but we've done serious work on the brand, product design, and pitch. Full UI/UX is designed across 6+ core screens. We're currently in conversations with Indian VCs for a ₹1.5Cr pre-seed round. This is a real thing, not a weekend idea. What we need An Android developer who can build the MVP. Drop a comment or DM me if you want to see the full product deck and have a conversation. Happy to share everything

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